On the competition between Poseidon and Zeus

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The "uselessness expression" of Poseidon is programatic in the depiction of the hero of the invisible, unconscious, uncontrolled and of doing nothing ph: A.Savin, free art license

On the competition between Poseidon and Zeus

On the competition between Poseidon and Zeus, Neptune and Jupiter. Astrology, mythology and temples: astrogeographical considerations and analyses

Compare: Zeus vs. PoseidonA gold plated temple swallowed by floods, The Mahabodhi Tree  – site of Buddha`s illumination in Pisces

The “uselessness expression” of Poseidon is programatic in the depiction of the hero of the invisible, unconscious, uncontrolled and of doing nothing ph: A.Savin, free art license

For an astrological investigation the competition between Poseidon and Zeus aka Neptune and Jupiter includes the question of the differentiation between Pisces (spiritual plane) and Sagittarius (mental plane) and also between deeper investigation (Poseidon) into astrological questions and bourgeois patterns of apparent success in the astrological scene (Sagittarius). I personally feel that a deeper investigation into these questions would help astrologers in getting to a more holistic and less functionalist approach to the astrological questions around the hows and whys of fate. As far as the astrology and esoterical markets are concerned this includes the differentiation between the actual attempt to perceive and/or understand something unknown and the trigger talking of the manipulation of consumers for commercial purposes.

Unlike Poseidon anything Zeus does is useful – and while other gods simply chase lovers for their own egoistic purposes any of Zeus` seductions and rapings all bring about useful new beings making him successful in his hunt for lovers wherever he goes. ph: Marcus Cyron, GFDL

As a first step I want to recommend that astrology needs to differentiate -between imagined correspondences which are our own subjective views, where we reflect ourselves rather than the astrological topics and archetypal core points behind the systemical meaning of the single signs and planets.

The square between Pisces and Sagittarius means conflict between Poseidon and Zeus

In the systemical relationships of the signs as defined by the 12 -fold zodiac Pisces and Sagittarius lie in a square angle to each other. That means they do not represent harmonious and friendly but conflicting and competing aspects.

The astrological problem behind the competition between Zeus and Poseidon includes questions about the competition between pseudo-classical and modern astrology, about habitual judgement and the awareness about the natural and acquired limitations of our horizon in regard to confronting astrological problems. Before the discovery of Neptune in astrological interpretation Jupiter ruled both spheres: the sphere of Pisces (spirituality) as well as the sphere of Sagittarius (priesthood, human knowledge). That included the inability to differentiate between the imagined reality (Sagittarius) and the awareness of aspects of reality beyond mental knowledge, words and limitations (Pisces). Sagittarius as an organ of the mental plane is by definition of the 12-fold tropical zodiac of the northern hemisphere limited to human perception through the sense organs, human thinking and conclusions and the explored and available aspects of reality. Pisces by that definition relates to the  invisible, unconscious, unknown and transcendental.

The Temple of Poseidon looking south above the Aegean Sea at Cape Sounion (not at Kiveri) is located in Sagittarius with Aquarius. copyright: Kuno Lechner, GNU/FDL

Who made Zeus the ruler of the pantheon?

In the hierarchy among the Olympean gods as defined through the choice of a larger part of Greek society seems to be such that the god of house 9 (Sagittarius) – aka Zeus the winner in the material world – overshadowed the reality of house 12 (Pisces) – aka Poseidon who is hiding in the ocean and along with him the unknown, unconscious, invisible, socially unaccepted, suppressed and also unprofitable aspects of reality.

The dominance of house 9 (mental conclusions) over house 12 (spirituality) has led to the misinterpretation of religion being transferred into the realms of the mental plane by astrologers – with the effect that its actual topic the “re – eligion” aka reconnection with the supreme subtle plane of the reality behind the perceived creed is overwritten through a competition for the best, most convincing violently, triggering, excstatic, precious, promising, glorious, magnificent, aggressive, dominant, brutal, frightening, professional, profitable, hermetically closed up image or any other apparently useful characteristic feature of the mental description of a religion.

Compare: The Temple of Zeus at OlympiaThe birth place of Poseidon,   Aphrodite`s birth place and the Temple at AphrodisiasOracle of Delphi, The Birth place of Zeus in Jupiter`s sign SagittariusThree Steps to Mount OlympusThe Temple of the Eleusinian MysteriesThe Tower of the Winds in AthensTemple of Neptune in Aquarius with SagittariusThe Magic of Prediction at Ancient Greek Oracle Places, The Birth Place of Hermes on Mount KylliniThe Temple of the Oracle of Apollon Claros,  The temple of Artemis at EphesosPluto’s Gate in astrogeography